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 08-08-2001, 18:38 Post: 30793
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 Bar tires versus Turf tires

I am looking to purchase a BX2200 and my question is: has anyone used bar tires versus the turf tires. My intention for the compact is for snowblowing and removing a pontoon boat in/out of the water. I do not have that much lawn to do but will get the 60inch deck. Should I expect lawn damage if I go with the bar tires? thanks gilles






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 08-09-2001, 07:24 Post: 30803
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You will not have any traction with the turf tires for pulling or pushing,the turf tires are fair weather tires,I have even heard of people spinning on damp grass in four wheel drive with turf tires,if you are needing traction the bar tires are the way to go.






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 08-09-2001, 08:22 Post: 30808
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What Hillbilly says is correct, but to specifically answer your question, YES, the bar tires will shred your lawn. Life's a compromise. Good luck






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 08-09-2001, 08:25 Post: 30809
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Yes, I do spin my turfs on grass in 4wd when ripping sod with a box scraper scarifiers. I still get the job done by taking it in several passes--takes longer though. The turfs also work OK for snow blowing and some loader work on frozen gravel. Actually nothing has a lot of traction on ice or snow pack except chains. Turfs may work about as well as ags on ice. I'm able to manage the traction problems I have with the turfs, but it does take some time and some fiddling. When I think about, I'd love to have ags for a lot of the work I do. But then, I still have to drive on lawns sometimes. Can't really drive ag tires on lawns, and having to stay off lawns probably would be more aggravating than fiddling with traction problems.






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 08-09-2001, 09:15 Post: 30812
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Yes, the reduced traction of the turf tires will allow them to spin the tires in 4wd on wet grass. Bar and ag tires are more difficult to spin, but not much. If tire surface area was what mattered, the bars and ags should have less traction, but their profile picks up a little more traction than the turfs in most grasses. The advantage of ags is that they quickly spin down to bare dirt where they can get a grip. Then they have a lot more traction than the turf tires.....but you might not like what a spinning ag tire does to your lawn.
On a really hard surface the turfs seem to have more traction than the ags.






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 08-10-2001, 08:23 Post: 30841
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The turf tires on pavement or on a hard surface will out pull a ag tire. On ground depending on the tightness the ag tire will drop in the depth of the bar to aid the traction. The ag tires o a BX are a very low profile about one inch tall unlike the ag tires on larger tractors where the lugs might be two to three inches high.






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 08-10-2001, 22:42 Post: 30861
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Art,
What you are saying is a turf tire has better traction than an ag tire on a hard surface,be it hard packed clay or asphalt? A flat surface or an incline either one? I have a hard time believing that to be true under all circumstances.






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 08-11-2001, 07:01 Post: 30863
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Hillbilly, have you ever seen a tractor pull? they remove nearly all the tire bars on the tire as ag tire's bars will bend over on a hard pull. On a hard surface think of racing tires, or slicks, its surface contact that counts. Tires are always a trade off. I've spun turf tires on wet grass too, but I've also seen turfs out pull ag tires.






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 08-11-2001, 07:27 Post: 30866
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The tractor pulls I usally watch are the regular farm tractors coming in off the fields as is ,but I see what you are saying about the surface contact,but of course the raising slicks they spin them to get them hot and make them sticky.Interesting point Art. Thanks






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 08-11-2001, 07:57 Post: 30872
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Putting aside the heating of a tire surface to increase tack (this is not a factor in any tractor activity I know ofSmile one of the keys to traction on a hard dry surface is the total length of tread edges touching the surface. Mor edges means more traction. In this measure, ags lose out to turfs big time.
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The extreme variation of conditions that a tractor has to deal with makes the trade offs more apparent than they are in automotive tires.
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